The List: Black Movie Villians

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Let's get it started in here. Gossip, music, news, entertainment, and heated discussions. The DJ Blaze Radio show starts now. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Welcome back to another episode of the DJ Blaze Radio show podcast. It's your boy Be easy. [00:00:49] Speaker B: It's your boy, Al. [00:00:50] Speaker A: And it's Wednesday. On our Wednesday's episode, we do a top five. And today, El, what are we talking about on our top five? [00:00:58] Speaker B: Today's top five is black villains, movie villains, TV characters, whatever. Villains. Black villains. Top five. [00:01:07] Speaker A: We might get into a little debate on some of these. [00:01:11] Speaker B: I already know which one you gonna debate on. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:14] Speaker B: It's probably my number three. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Might not be. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Sometimes people don't think they're a villain, but they might play a grimy role at the time as a villain to. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Me, too, a grimy role might add some villain to it. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, like, people didn't really like his role in this movie or whatever. I consider that a villain on this one, too. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:43] Speaker B: That's why mine's a one or two. Might be off. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:48] Speaker B: And not a villain like a superhero villain, but it's a villain like he was a bad guy in that movie. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, but some of them, though, they show enough. Show enough defined villains. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:02:02] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [00:02:03] Speaker B: Some are like a bad guy. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Some are like anti heroes. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:07] Speaker A: But last week, I just want to mention this. Last week when we were talking about places that I would recommend, like chicken wing places, I forgot to mention one of my favorite places here, edk. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:23] Speaker A: They got some good wings, too. But you mentioned jazz on Dargan. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Did I? [00:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah, you mentioned jazz on Dargan, but I was like, you know, restaurant. Restaurant. Not like bars. But I had wings at jazz the other night for the first time. Last night. No, no, no, no. I just had them last night. Remember we were talking about, like, the other place and they had the soupy honey. Yeah, yeah. And I got some honey lemon pepper. And the honey was like, thick. It was just thick enough. Yeah. Hey. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Oh, you said I played last night. Okay. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Not really. I just. After we got off work, I just went and ordered some food. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Catch one of them homecomings gatherings. [00:02:56] Speaker A: No, that shit was. It was original night. Oh, for real? This who? What? I ain't even name the school, but that school. Homecoming. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Dead. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Cause most homecoming, the whole city be flooded. Not this one. But anyway, we're here to talk about that. We're here to talk about these top five villains. So who's your number five villain? [00:03:19] Speaker B: My number five villain. A lot of people. I think my whole List. Everybody knows who they are. 1991, the movie New Jack City. Nino Brown, aka Wesley Snipes. Mr. Do your taxes. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Mm. [00:03:39] Speaker B: I think Nino was. So people were rooting for him at the beginning of the movie. Cause it's the. You know, they coming up, they getting rich and stuff like that. But once he started, you know, using people as a shield during a shootout, he turned into supervillain. Yeah. [00:03:59] Speaker A: You realize how bad he really was. Yeah. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Like, if you watching this, you know, just seeing where he's walking through the club, everybody loves him. [00:04:05] Speaker A: He got the gold chain on. Yeah. [00:04:07] Speaker B: He was feeling the scenes. Nino Brown, to me, number five. He could have been up higher, but he just came to me at that time. [00:04:16] Speaker A: A lot of times in movies and shows and stuff, a lot of people, like, identify. A lot of people identify with the drug dealer. You know what I'm saying? So they kind of root for him. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Yep. Look at Scarface. Yeah. Look at blow. Any drug dealer movie. They rooted for the drug dealer. [00:04:33] Speaker A: But it is kind of a difference with Scarface and Boston George, though. [00:04:38] Speaker B: You think? Cause they were poor at the beginning. Nah. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Cause Boston George didn't do. He ain't never. You never saw him do no violence. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:45] Speaker A: He just straight did drugs. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:47] Speaker A: Scarface was killing people. Scarface killed people to get what he was. He killed Rebanga Rubenger in the hole up. And then. Then, of course, he killed Frank. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:05:03] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? He was killing people. So. But there is a little difference. [00:05:07] Speaker B: That's with this one. Nino Brown, he was. They liked him until he crossed that line. Once he held the little girl up as a shield at the shootout. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Cancel that bitch. [00:05:19] Speaker B: And cancel. Cancel that bitch. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that was another one. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. All right. What you got for number five? [00:05:25] Speaker A: My number five is he's a. When I think of villains and stuff like that, I think of, like, cartoon movies, comic books and stuff. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:34] Speaker A: And one of the biggest comic book movies in black culture was Black Panther. A lot of people loved Eric Killmonger. [00:05:43] Speaker B: Killmonger. [00:05:44] Speaker A: But he was. He was evil. He was killing people. [00:05:49] Speaker B: He was a bad guy. [00:05:50] Speaker A: He killed this lady right here. She was innocent. She just worked at the museum. [00:05:56] Speaker B: He was about to make my list. [00:05:58] Speaker A: He was. [00:05:58] Speaker B: He was. [00:05:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Only reason I didn't do it was I was like, eh. [00:06:01] Speaker A: They just like him. Cause he had a side hat. He done poisoned the lady. [00:06:04] Speaker B: He was cool. [00:06:05] Speaker A: He poisoned that lady Cruel. [00:06:06] Speaker B: He was cool, though. [00:06:07] Speaker A: He killed his girlfriend when they was about to be in Wakanda. [00:06:11] Speaker B: He was cool. Though. [00:06:12] Speaker A: Killed Claw. And the one scene that I do not like when he was like Iraq. Hated that part, hated it. [00:06:24] Speaker B: I thought you was gonna say the hey, auntie. [00:06:27] Speaker A: Hey, auntie. Yeah, that was kinda corny too. [00:06:29] Speaker B: It was a little corny, but yeah. This scene right here, when he first came on the scene, this one made. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He got the coat that all the hood niggas got, the jean jacket with the fur on, the inside chains on, got the gold grill. [00:06:42] Speaker B: He had his dreads up. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah, his locks. [00:06:45] Speaker B: He had his locks. [00:06:46] Speaker A: You know, he made some points about the. [00:06:49] Speaker B: About the artifacts. [00:06:49] Speaker A: About the artifacts. Yeah. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one. [00:06:53] Speaker A: That's a real one, you know. So that's my number five, Killmonger. Eric Killmonger. Yeah, your number four, Rufus Buck. Rufus Buck. Now explain who Rufus Buck is and what movie for those people that don't know. [00:07:08] Speaker B: Yep, 20, 21amovie came out. The Harder They Fall. Cowboy based movie. Idris Elba. What's her name? [00:07:24] Speaker A: Regina King. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Regina King. Deon Cole. [00:07:28] Speaker A: Deon Cole was in it. What's my man from Atlanta? [00:07:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I love him. Gosh, I love him. [00:07:38] Speaker A: I see his name. I see his face too. Dang. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Well, either way. Yeah, him, he was star studded. [00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah, a lot of stars in it. [00:07:45] Speaker B: And the scene where they open the scene, they showing him in the dark, they got him locked in some kind of box or something and he comes through walking with the chains. [00:07:58] Speaker A: I just. [00:07:59] Speaker B: He killed it. I really liked him in the every scene he was in. I'm not gonna say he stole the show, but. [00:08:07] Speaker A: Oh, what's my man? That was King the Conqueror. He was the good guy in this movie. The built guy. He played in Creed opposite of Michael B. Jordan. There you go. That's my man who was talking about. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I know exactly who you talking about. [00:08:25] Speaker A: What's his name? [00:08:28] Speaker B: I couldn't take it. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Flanning Creed. You know his name. You know what I'm talking to Bill. Big dude. He was the star of the movie. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Oh, oh, the magazine guy. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he played him. Yeah, he was a magazine with a pink on. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Oh, what's this? [00:08:40] Speaker A: And he got in trouble with the white woman and then he ran from her. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's one of those ones you say, don't talk. Don't talk. Jay, start with a J. Jonathan Majors. Jonathan Majors. [00:08:53] Speaker A: Jonathan Majors is the protagonist in this. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:08:57] Speaker A: And he's the antagonist. [00:08:58] Speaker B: I forgot he was in this. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So star studded. [00:09:01] Speaker B: But you know what? He stole the show. I really Watched it because of him and Regina King. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:09] Speaker B: This scene right here, all of them on that train, I really love to see. [00:09:13] Speaker A: And she played a real person. Well, her character's name was a real. [00:09:19] Speaker B: Person based off a real person. [00:09:21] Speaker A: Yeah, Stagecoach Betty or something like that. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:25] Speaker B: And she was black too. [00:09:26] Speaker A: Uh huh. Yeah. [00:09:26] Speaker B: Oh, wow, that's cool. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Not that they did, but matter of fact, all of their names were real people. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah, all of their names was real people. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Rufus. Rufus Buck. I'm gonna have to look him up there. [00:09:40] Speaker A: No, not Rufus. A couple of the other ones, though. Like the guy from Atlanta. The other guy that was the. Like the sheriff or whatever. He was like a marshal. And he came later on. He was older. He played a real guy. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Okay, yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker A: But anyway, yeah, this is a good movie. Harder they Fall harder They fall. [00:10:01] Speaker B: 20, 21. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah, my number four is a show. I don't know, a lot of people didn't watch it, but it was on Black Lightning and one of the main villains was. The name is Tobias Whale. Tobias Wells. Tobias Whale was he, you know, acted like he was for, you know, the betterment of black people. But, you know, I guess it's a light thing because he said a lot of negative stuff about black people, you see. Cause. So Black Lightning real name was Jefferson. So Jefferson. You know, the problem with black people is they got a lot of promises but never gonna do nothing. He'll say shit like that. You know what I'm saying? [00:10:45] Speaker B: He was the Black Kingpin. [00:10:48] Speaker A: Black Kingpin, you know, Spider Man. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah, Black one. [00:10:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I want to say this is a DC comic and it was kind of taken from that, I think. I don't know. I was trying to do a little research on it. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Oh, I wonder. It might happen. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but. But yeah, I used to love this show, man. It was kind of cheesy at points because this was a CW show. [00:11:12] Speaker B: It was good though. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Tobias Whale played by the rapper Krondon. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't even know he was a rapper until like neither. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Till after the show. Yeah, I think he was on the Breakfast Club or whatever. And then they talked about it. Talked to him, whatever. But yeah, and that's. He what? My man name. He played on Living Single. He was Khadijah's boyfriend. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah, Khadijah's boyfriend. That's all I know, man. [00:11:34] Speaker A: But yeah, that's my number. That's my number four. Tobias Wells, Lightning Bag man, that's another one. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Did that one come straight to your head? Don't ever say that. [00:11:43] Speaker A: To me, again, though, going straight to your head is wild, too. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah. He went deepest going straight to your head. Yeah, you're right. [00:11:50] Speaker A: Your number, number three. [00:11:53] Speaker B: My number three. Villain of all villains to me. I even got his tattoo on my leg. [00:12:02] Speaker A: My man. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Alonzo. The movie Training Day is. [00:12:13] Speaker A: The way this was directed. Up until the end of the movie, you didn't think he was still. You still had hope for him being the good guy. [00:12:20] Speaker B: What? [00:12:21] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:22] Speaker B: I don't know, man. [00:12:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:24] Speaker B: He was shady to the guy the whole way. I didn't know he was gonna flip the beef that bad when he killed his own friend. But once he killed his own friend. [00:12:33] Speaker A: It was over because he knows his first name. [00:12:38] Speaker B: Look at the brains on Brad. [00:12:40] Speaker A: I watch a duke. He sold dope to kids for years. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you? [00:12:53] Speaker A: I guarantee it. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Alonzo, man. [00:12:56] Speaker A: That's the part right there. [00:12:57] Speaker B: He's doing it. [00:12:57] Speaker A: He's doing it right now. This chest, this ain't checkers. [00:13:03] Speaker B: His wolves, he said, learn that shit, dawg. [00:13:05] Speaker A: Learn that, learn that shit. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Learn that shit, dawg. They plotting on you. [00:13:08] Speaker A: They plotting on you every day. Yeah. Yeah. [00:13:12] Speaker B: Alonzo, man, I'm telling you, no matter when it's on. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:16] Speaker B: You wanna go home or you wanna go to jail? [00:13:17] Speaker A: You wanna go home? You wanna go to jail? Boom, boom, get yourself. You never know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Alonzo, man, I used to have a TV in one of my cars, and I had. And I would just ride around playing this. [00:13:32] Speaker B: You would play this? [00:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah, and I would play the director's cut. So one of the main things about this movie was a lot of the stuff. Like, remember Jake found the little girl's wallet, and he kept the wallet. And it just so happened to be her cousin that she called earlier that. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Day to have him set up. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Well, she called him, he called her later. But he just so happened to be the person that Alonzo set up. Set him up or whatever. But, you know, people was like. That was kind of like, you know, far fetched. But real life is like, coincidences. A lot of stuff that happened in life be coincidence. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Neighborhood cops, you know, everybody in the neighborhood, you call in the hoods. [00:14:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's definitely believable. That was one of the things that he said in the director's cut. But, like, even, like in this movie, even this part, the way he explained it to him, you like, okay, he was, you know, he had to be doing some dirt to have $10 million, however many millions of dollars up under the. You know what I'm saying? You can explain it away. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Yep. You know he was selling lollipops, giving lollipops to kids. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So. Yeah. But up until. Really like for me, up until the last scene of the movie or the last big scene when, you know, they out in the Bottoms or wherever they was of the jungle now. [00:14:51] Speaker B: They was in the jungle? [00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah, up in the jungle. Up until I seen you thought he was good. Cause he was actively trying to kill Jake then. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Yeah, he really was going for him then. [00:15:02] Speaker A: He was actively trying to kill him. [00:15:04] Speaker B: I don't know, man. When he started scrambling, he had the meeting with the Wise Mens and all that. I knew it was over for him. Remember he had to go get the warrant for the Wise men's. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:17] Speaker B: That's when I knew he. They broke. Look it. They did the raid at the house with the. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Some old messy gray. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker A: It still was dope money though. Yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker B: But he wasn't a good guy no more. [00:15:29] Speaker A: It wasn't no citizen. That's police shit. Yeah. He ain't did nothing to nobody good. Quote unquote, until the end when he tried to kill Jake. [00:15:38] Speaker B: When he tried to kill Jake. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Yep. [00:15:39] Speaker A: That's the only thing. That's the only thing I say about it. Like he only tried to do something to somebody good till the end of the movie. But. Yeah. [00:15:49] Speaker B: Yep, that's my number three. [00:15:50] Speaker A: My number three is from a movie and it's based on a book. The book is called Push. The movie is called Precious. [00:16:02] Speaker B: I guess the mama. The mama. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Yes, Lord, the mama. And Precious played by Monique. [00:16:07] Speaker B: I never watched the movie. [00:16:08] Speaker A: You didn't? [00:16:08] Speaker B: Nah. Cause it looked too sad. [00:16:11] Speaker A: It's not sad. It's just. Wait, this isn't Precious. That's a commercial. [00:16:14] Speaker B: That's a commercial. [00:16:15] Speaker A: That's a commercial. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Get it right, baby. [00:16:17] Speaker A: That's Precious. [00:16:18] Speaker B: So, yeah, she definitely was a villain. [00:16:21] Speaker A: She was a villain. She cursed her out. She, I wanna say, hit her in the head with a frying pan at one part in the movie. I only watched it one time. Cause it is traumatizing. But there's a scene where she chased up the stairs. So in the movie, there's a scene where the mama is upstairs and she calls Precious to go upstairs. Right. They don't really paint a picture of what she's calling her upstairs to do. They do say that Precious baby is from her father. In the book, the mama was making Precious do sexual acts to her. Oh, in that scene in the book, she called upstairs and. And when she go upstairs, she describes what it is doing that to her mama. Her mama Coochie was stanking all kind of stuff. But they call her to go upstairs. And when she go upstairs in the movie, it go dark and then it go to the next scene. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Okay. So they. [00:17:17] Speaker A: So they don't say it in the movie. Cause that was too much for the movie. But in the book they explain it. And she was just a real evil person, uneducated type of person. Like, here's one scene. It's funny now. Cause people use it, but like, she goes to a social worker who's played by Mariah Carey. [00:17:33] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:17:34] Speaker A: And she was like, oh, since you got all your fancy degrees and stuff. Since you know every goddamn thing. And people use that now. Since you know every goddamn thing or whatever. Yeah, this one, she beat her up. Yeah. Talk shit. She called her fat and ugly and all kind of shit. Call her a bitch. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't watch this one. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that movie right there. Make you not like Monique, but. Yeah, that's my number three villain. Your number two? [00:17:54] Speaker B: My number two. We going to another tattoo I got. What year was this? 1985. The movie. Last Dragon Show Nuff. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Played by Deon Cole. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Almost right. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:13] Speaker B: What was his name? [00:18:13] Speaker A: Julia Rhymes. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Julian Carey. Julius Carrey. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Come on. Everybody know who Show Enough is. Even if you don't know who show Enough is, you know what he looked like? Yeah, you know the look, man. Everything from the first scene in the movie theaters when he beat everybody up in there. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Sure enough, you couldn't. That guy couldn't play Show Enough now. Cause his teeth ain't straight enough. What? [00:18:44] Speaker B: Who's looking at his teeth? [00:18:46] Speaker A: I'm just saying now if you pay attention to people in American movies now, everything is perfect. The teeth straight, the hair straight. Like, even him playing that part right there with that fucked up hairline. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't make it. [00:18:59] Speaker B: So Leroy couldn't make it? [00:19:01] Speaker A: Nah. He'd have to tighten that hair up. [00:19:03] Speaker B: Nah, he's. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Yeah, he wouldn't. Now if you watch like, British shows. Yeah, British shows, the people look like real people. Their teeth might be a little fucked up. Might have a little bit of wrinkles and American shows and stuff. Everybody be perfect, cuz. [00:19:17] Speaker B: So did you see this movie, Last Dragon? [00:19:19] Speaker A: Long time ago. Long, long time ago. [00:19:20] Speaker B: One time or something. [00:19:21] Speaker A: Probably one time. [00:19:22] Speaker B: You got any quotes from it? No. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Probably. The quote I got is from Busta Rhymes video when he did it. [00:19:36] Speaker B: What was it? [00:19:37] Speaker A: Am I the meanest? [00:19:38] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. The most famous one. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My number's no, kiss my Converse. Oh, yeah, yeah, kiss my Converse. [00:19:45] Speaker B: He did that. Busta Ryan did do that one too. [00:19:48] Speaker A: I don't think he did. No, I don't think he did that. I'm gonna kiss my Converse on this part. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah, this movie right here. I used to watch this movie over and over and over. At the time, karate was big and it was a black guy doing karate. That made it even better. Yeah, and he had like hip music, little kids doing breakdancing in it. [00:20:10] Speaker A: What's a girl? What's the female. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Vanity. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Vanity. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah, vanity was in it. I just talked about vanity too. Like, vanity was supposed to be in Purple Rain, but who. They got Apollonia that looks almost just like her. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out to your number three, the Last Dragon. [00:20:33] Speaker B: That was number two. My number two. That was my number two. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, my bad. My number two. We talk about him. We talk about this movie more than. I've probably watched it, but I've watched it a good A better times. As a matter of fact, it was on not too long ago. One of the. My main quotes from this movie is money the boy. So the. Wait, what? [00:20:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he was a villain. [00:20:58] Speaker A: He was a villain. He's villainish. Yeah, he was an antagonist. [00:21:02] Speaker B: His outfit made him a villain. Came through looking like vampire in Brooklyn. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Yeah, he did look like a vampire in Brooklyn. All he needed was the fang. Yeah, Cudi was cool. Cudi was cool. But this movie should teach anybody to not mess with anybody that come back home from war. Especially a Marine. I personally know a marine that he came back from war and somebody had fucked with him. You know them big ass trash cans, like the big ones that be outside? Yeah, for sure. He had a big, huge one in the house. A big huge one in the house. It was full of trash. And somebody fucked with him at his house and he emptied the whole thing, tore up the TVs and he flipped the script. For real. You don't mess with them war motherfuckers when they come back. [00:21:47] Speaker B: I thought he was gonna say something. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Like he threw somebody in it. [00:21:50] Speaker B: You learn not to go to war. [00:21:53] Speaker A: You can't. It's not. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Learn not to go to war. If they want you to go to. [00:21:57] Speaker A: War, you going to war. Show as shit, Stank. [00:22:00] Speaker B: Cudi boy. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Shout out to Cudi. [00:22:02] Speaker B: You know, boss man Cudi, he used to tap that when you was over. [00:22:06] Speaker A: At Nam, the way Cudi did in the car. She was talking to the guy, he's like, oh, you know, this. My. [00:22:12] Speaker B: The pull off. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Oh, this is me and Edge and he pulled off the pull off? Yeah, that was crazy. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Oh, man, the pull off. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Was he in a broom? What kind of car was he in? [00:22:18] Speaker B: I don't think they showed the whole car. [00:22:19] Speaker A: I don't know. What kind of car was it? A big ass Cadillac probably. I don't know. [00:22:23] Speaker B: The pull off was strong. She was still talking. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Suck it, nigga. Night Santa Claus. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Did he ever beat up Cudi? No, he never got his kid back on. Cudi. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Cudi's. This was Cudi's last scene. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Suck it, nigga. [00:22:44] Speaker B: That was Cudi's last scene. [00:22:45] Speaker A: This one right here? [00:22:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. [00:22:47] Speaker A: This is before the drive off. This is after the drive off was first. Okay. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Then he came back like this thing in the house. Now this one, he knew he couldn't mess with Cudi. Cause he ain't go looking for Cudi. Ah, Jonathan. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Oh, and this is when he went to start dealing with his sister. [00:23:05] Speaker B: I don't really deal with the sister. [00:23:07] Speaker A: Didn't she kiss him? Ah, yeah, something. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Did you say that in another episode? [00:23:14] Speaker A: I thought so. I think I did. I think I did. Yeah, that's it. Gave me vibes like she wanted him to smash. [00:23:18] Speaker B: That's a tough one. [00:23:19] Speaker A: Your number one. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Come on. My number one should be your number one, man. [00:23:24] Speaker A: No, no, it should. He is not a villain and that is a commercial. Oh, what makes him a villain? [00:23:34] Speaker B: Cause he's robbing people. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Who is he robbing? [00:23:38] Speaker B: He's robbing Avon Boxtel. [00:23:40] Speaker A: What is his code? You know Avon? [00:23:42] Speaker B: You know one of code on the beeper? [00:23:44] Speaker A: No, his code. He got a code. He got a code to live by. He told. He told Bunk. A man gotta have a code. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he did say it. [00:23:53] Speaker A: And what was his code? [00:23:53] Speaker B: I don't remember his code. [00:23:54] Speaker A: I'll never turn my gun on a citizen. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right about that. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Only people in the game. [00:23:59] Speaker B: You're right about that. Well, we'll talk about Omar Little. Omar Little? [00:24:05] Speaker A: He was robbing people. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Michael K. Williams, killing people. [00:24:10] Speaker A: He was, man. [00:24:12] Speaker B: See, look, it's on now. We just stopped just to watch. [00:24:15] Speaker A: No, I stopped for you to talk. Cause I didn't want to talk about my favorite show ever. I can go on and on for days talking about this. [00:24:22] Speaker B: I'm telling you, man, the scenes. He was robbing people and didn't have to rob them. Giving it up. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Feared. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Feared. He said. Don't make me have to huff and puff. [00:24:32] Speaker A: Yeah, man, and I'm coming back tomorrow and the next day. Yeah. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Omar. Omar from the Wire. If you haven't seen the Wire, please go and watch the Wire. [00:24:42] Speaker A: He was feared, this show. [00:24:45] Speaker B: He was clever, too. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Does it have a racism and poverty is the main villain of this show. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Or was it the police? [00:24:56] Speaker A: Now, you can't even say the police. [00:24:58] Speaker B: That's the argument, right? If the police are bad guys too? [00:25:03] Speaker A: No. Cause the police were trying to stop crime. I mean, people were getting killed and people weren't getting killed. If people weren't getting killed, then the police really wouldn't be messing with the drug. And they said it in the show like, it's the bodies. It's the bodies that bring the police. [00:25:21] Speaker B: You're right. You're right. [00:25:22] Speaker A: You know what shut down Marlo was them vacants putting people in the vacants. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yep, yep. You right about that. [00:25:29] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yep. [00:25:31] Speaker B: That was my number one. Go ahead, man. I already know you. I already got the sneak preview. [00:25:37] Speaker A: You did? Yeah. What's my number one? Go ahead, say it. [00:25:41] Speaker B: It's from your favorite movie of all time. [00:25:43] Speaker A: That ain't my favorite movie of all time, though. [00:25:45] Speaker B: It's not? [00:25:45] Speaker A: No. [00:25:46] Speaker B: Well, go ahead. [00:25:46] Speaker A: It's the top movie. Who is my favorite number one? [00:25:49] Speaker B: If it was for what I thought I saw up there, what do you think you saw? [00:25:52] Speaker A: Go ahead, say it. [00:25:54] Speaker B: I think it was the Samuel L. Jackson. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah, you did see it. He's the villain. And I thought about this, like that was low hanging fruit, but he is the villain. Because if it wasn't for him, they would have got away with it. And this is the scene right here. Cause he hated Django from the moment he saw him. He was jealous of him. Yeah. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Tell the people the movie. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah, Django, Samuel Jackson. Steven. He don't even got a last name. Steven. That, that. That nigga ain't here to buy no man. Dango. They here for that girl. [00:26:33] Speaker B: I know that girl. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, now see, you wouldn't have been. You would. How? It's the way he said the part was like, if they'd have came here for that, good. It wouldn't have. It wouldn't have bothered you. You know, he wouldn't have made him. You know what I'm saying? [00:26:49] Speaker B: But so Senor Candy wasn't a villain to you in this movie. [00:26:55] Speaker A: He was just being a regular white person. But he put it that way. Yeah, but they didn't trick Candy. Candy. One of the things that they kind of said early in the movie was that Ms. Y', all, candy wasn't as smart as he appeared. You know, he tried to put on. Cause they was like, his name, Ms. Y' all candy, but he don't speak French. And then the guy, remember the guy that was his lawyer, he was like, don't ever speak French to him. You know what I'm saying? Cause it'll be insulting. Cause he'll embarrass him. Really, you know what I'm saying? And that's how a lot of those people are, you know what I'm saying? They put on. [00:27:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:27:29] Speaker A: But they really not. And you know what I'm saying. But it was Stephen that figured it out. [00:27:34] Speaker B: Yep, he was. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Steven figured it out. He told him, you know, time wasting. Sons of bitches. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Favorite quote. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Sons of bitches. [00:27:41] Speaker B: What's your favorite quote from him? [00:27:43] Speaker A: It's a whole bunch of them. One of them. I got a whole bunch. It just depends. It's situational, you know, this nigga here, that nigga there, you know what I'm saying? Django isn't like any other niggas around here, so you can't treat him like any other niggas around here. [00:27:58] Speaker B: There you go. [00:27:59] Speaker A: That's one of mine. [00:27:59] Speaker B: He's a free man. [00:28:00] Speaker A: He's a free man. So you want to treat us like white folk. No, that's not what I'm saying. It's a whole bunch of quotes like everybody send me. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Everybody knows that. Everybody loves that. [00:28:14] Speaker A: That bag scene. [00:28:16] Speaker B: No, who's this? Nay on the name. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Who's that nigga on the nae. Yeah, yeah, that's one. But the bag scene, a lot of people, you know, send the bag scene. [00:28:25] Speaker B: That's true. [00:28:26] Speaker A: The bag scene to me is low hanging fruit. [00:28:28] Speaker B: That is too funny, though. [00:28:29] Speaker A: It is funny, but that was probably. [00:28:33] Speaker B: One of the funniest parts of the whole movie. [00:28:37] Speaker A: It's funny, but it's made to be funny. [00:28:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:41] Speaker A: One of my favorite scenes of the movie is when quote, he's like Mr. Stone cipher. Seeing D' Artagnan hit a nigger. Help him. That's a cold ass scene. Yeah, yeah. Got him. Eat up by dogs. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that was a good one. [00:29:01] Speaker A: It's a whole lot of scenes in that movie that I love. But yeah, yeah, one scene when. And it's a low key scene. It go back to when, you know, Mr. I mean, Mr. Ocande ain't as smart as he think. So they get beer or whatever and they toast, you know, toast the beer, whatever. And Dr. Schultz be like. He say something in German, he be like, Probst. And Mr. O' Candy be like, German. He's like, real slick, man. He's like prost and he was like, German. Yeah. Like, little shit like that would make it my. You know, one of my. I don't think it's my favorite, favorite movie. Cause training day up there, I love some training day. Oh, yeah. Trainer day. Oh, yeah. Monday. [00:29:48] Speaker B: I swore daggoing Django was in there. [00:29:50] Speaker A: Nah, Django up there for portables and stuff. You'll be playing basketball at Pelican Bay when I get finished. Shoe program. Niggas think the shoe program is s h o u S h o e. No, the shoe program is a real thing that they do at the jail in Cali. S h u program. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Is it shoot. [00:30:09] Speaker A: No shoot. S h u shu. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Shoot. [00:30:12] Speaker A: And if you watch Orange is the new Black, they talk about you going to the shoe. [00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Orange is the new black. So, you know, I be in the movies and TV show. [00:30:21] Speaker B: So Alonzo might have made your villain if I didn't send you my list first. [00:30:27] Speaker A: Nah, he wouldn't have made my villain list. No. Cause he is. He's still the main person in the movie. Like, I don't look at him as a villain. He more of a. Yeah. [00:30:40] Speaker B: He let Jake get beat up. [00:30:45] Speaker A: He still did. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Oh, talking about. [00:30:46] Speaker A: Well, he got beat by the. By the crackheads. By the crackheads. But even that go to me, like. Remember earlier when I was like, the directing in the movie? This, that, and the third that goes to the director. Cause he was like. It made it seem like he just wanted to see what Jake could do. Could do. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Because he was gonna step in eventually if it got too bad, it made it look like that. Cause at the end, he stood the crackheads up. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:10] Speaker A: Hit him with the guns. And, you know, and Jake was like, you ain't gonna arrest him. He's like, what do you want to do? You know what I'm saying? That be out eventually. Somebody gonna kill him. You know what I'm saying? Whatever, you know? So up until, like, going through all out the movie, he did shit that a regular police would not do, but they just made it seem like he was such a good detective until he knew the streets, knew what was gonna happen. He walked to the park with Snoop, he put the pin down and had him. You know, that's 10 years per bullet. [00:31:38] Speaker B: What do you call it? Jimmy crack corn. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Yeah, Jimmy crack corn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Walked into Chinese, chase him in the Korean lady's place. He knew a little bit of Korean or whatever he was saying that's I mean, you know, that's my movie, man. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:53] Speaker A: That's my movie. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:55] Speaker A: Uh huh. All right. Let me get some of your snort, dog. [00:31:58] Speaker B: All right. All right. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's my movie right there. Yeah, I love that. [00:32:04] Speaker B: All right. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Yeah, that's my movie right there. So, yeah, that's our top five black movie villains. Should we do a one with just movie villains, period? We might do one with movie villains. How about. [00:32:18] Speaker B: You know who. I got an honorable mention. [00:32:20] Speaker A: I got a few honorable mentions. [00:32:22] Speaker B: I got two, I think. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Darth Vader. [00:32:25] Speaker A: No, Darth Vader was not black. Darth Vader was not black. He was white. Anakin Skywalker was white. [00:32:32] Speaker B: But his suit was black. His voice was black. He is black. [00:32:37] Speaker A: He is white. Cause a black man wouldn't have got beat up at the volcano on the volcano planet. [00:32:44] Speaker B: But he cut his arms off. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he cut his arms and legs, everything. Anakin, I got a high. Run. I don't give a damn. And he cut that motherfucker arms and legs off in two. He cut it off. Anakin stopped. He told him too, Anakin, stop. You can't get me. I got the high ground. I'm mad as hell. Get that shit quick. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Too. He fuck Anakin up, boy. He cut every. In the air. [00:33:12] Speaker A: He was upset. He was like, anakin, stop, please. I'm about to kill Anakin. I'm about to do you in. Then he saved his life. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Which one was that? Which? [00:33:22] Speaker A: That was. [00:33:24] Speaker B: They made so many. [00:33:25] Speaker A: Was it the third one? Was it the third one? [00:33:28] Speaker B: What was the name of it? [00:33:28] Speaker A: What was the name of that? The Dark. No, no, it was. Let me see. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Dang, I can't think of the name of it. That was my favorite one. [00:33:39] Speaker A: That was your favorite one? [00:33:40] Speaker B: Yeah, with Anakin. He went and killed them kids and all that. I was like, oh, this is serious. [00:33:44] Speaker A: That was. Yeah, that was before. That was in that same movie. [00:33:47] Speaker B: Yeah, this is serious. His eyes started getting darker. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Yep. The dark side took him over. Yeah. But it was because his. [00:33:59] Speaker B: I can't believe you can't say he ain't not a black man. [00:34:01] Speaker A: No, he ain't black. [00:34:02] Speaker B: He got the James Earl Jones voice. Don't know white guy got a voice like that. [00:34:07] Speaker A: That was AI. [00:34:08] Speaker B: He got the black suit. [00:34:11] Speaker A: Okay. The first was Attack of the Clones. Revenge of the Sith. That was that one. [00:34:14] Speaker B: That's what it was. [00:34:14] Speaker A: That's the third one. Revenge of the Sith. [00:34:16] Speaker B: That ain't it. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Cause the second one was Attack of the Clones. He was still good. Cause remember they had the big Clone Wars. [00:34:22] Speaker B: It was something else then. [00:34:23] Speaker A: The first one was the Phantom Menace. The second one was Attack of the Clones. And the third one was Revenge of the Sith. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Cause the thing that made him flip was they killed his mama. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:34] Speaker A: On that planet. He went there and killed all of those. [00:34:37] Speaker B: All the kids. [00:34:38] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. He killed all of those. Whatever creatures, those was. That killed his mama. [00:34:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:44] Speaker A: He killed them first. Cause he was mad. Then he came back, and that's when the Sith niggas got into his head. Emperor Palpatine got in his head, and that's when he flipped. Come on, man. I do this now. [00:34:57] Speaker B: That was a Damn. That was my favorite one out of all of them. [00:35:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a good one. The second one was good, too, though. [00:35:05] Speaker B: The first one. What was the first one? [00:35:06] Speaker A: Name? Phantom Menace. [00:35:08] Speaker B: That was a good one. [00:35:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a good. All of them was good. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Yeah. To me, he's another black villain. [00:35:14] Speaker A: He's not. [00:35:15] Speaker B: To me he is. And I got one more. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Mr. Glass. Mr. Glass was smart. [00:35:21] Speaker A: Yeah, he was smart. [00:35:22] Speaker B: From the movie Unbreakable. [00:35:25] Speaker A: He was only in Two of them. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Mr. Glass and Unbreakable. [00:35:28] Speaker A: Unbreakable. Yeah. And then in the second one, they showed. What was the second one? [00:35:34] Speaker B: Split. [00:35:35] Speaker A: Split. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:35:36] Speaker B: Samuel L. Jackson, 2000. He played Mr. Glass. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that was my. I was looking at a list of black villains and Samuel L. Jackson and the Kingsman. He played like a black villain there. He was like a scientist, and he gave them. It was like some pill that made everybody shit till they died. [00:35:56] Speaker B: I didn't watch the whole thing. Kingsman. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:58] Speaker B: I liked the action scenes, but that was all I remembered. [00:36:01] Speaker A: I got some honorable mentions, too. [00:36:02] Speaker B: What you got? [00:36:07] Speaker A: Wesley Snipes and Demolition Man. Yep. Simon Phoenix. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Simon Phoenix, Son. Come on, man. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Yep. That movie, when it's on a lot, it. Sometimes I'll stop and watch it, you know? One thing about that movie, though, the cars. [00:36:24] Speaker B: I haven't seen that movie in so long. [00:36:26] Speaker A: All the cars are like, hybrids. They're electric cars. And they sound like cars now. [00:36:30] Speaker B: Like. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Yep. So they got electric cars. One of the things that stood out in that movie, too, to me is like, Taco Bell was, like the big time thing, and it was like they won the food wars. But, like, stuff like that can happen now to where one company could take over and start getting. And then, like, eventually, over time, like, people forget that it was something else, and then they just rebrand and make themselves a big. So shit like that can happen. For real. Dag. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Demolition Man. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And then I got another one. Now, I don't know if you know this. Lord Rufus Crabmiser, Esmeralda Gripenasty, George Pistoferson. You know who they used to hang with? Those three people. You know who they used to hang with? [00:37:23] Speaker B: One more time, George. [00:37:26] Speaker A: Lord Rufus Krabmeister, Esmeralda Gripenasty, George Pitofferson. And they used to hang with one other person. And then the group of them was. They had a crew name. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Dang, I can't remember. [00:37:42] Speaker A: They used to hang with Colonel Stinkmina, the Hateocracy. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Come on, man. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, all of them. [00:37:50] Speaker B: That's the old. The old ones that came back. [00:37:54] Speaker A: Avenge his death. Yeah, for Boondocks on the boondocks. Yeah. And then of course, Uncle Ruckus on the boondocks. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Okay, so Ruckus is a. [00:38:02] Speaker A: He a villain. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a villain. [00:38:04] Speaker A: He a antagonist. He always antagonizing them boys. [00:38:06] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a villain. [00:38:07] Speaker A: And who else? I had Kang the Conqueror. [00:38:15] Speaker B: I didn't see that. [00:38:16] Speaker A: No, you didn't see it. But you don't watch Marvel movies. You don't? [00:38:21] Speaker B: No, I watched. Is that the one Jonathan Majors played? [00:38:23] Speaker A: Yes, Jonathan Majors. Yeah. [00:38:25] Speaker B: I don't remember it. [00:38:26] Speaker A: You don't remember none of the movies? None of the stuff he was in? [00:38:29] Speaker B: No, not that you didn't watch. [00:38:32] Speaker A: What's that show? With the time? [00:38:37] Speaker B: With the time? [00:38:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. What's his name? Loki. You didn't watch Loki? Yeah. [00:38:46] Speaker B: I watched a little bit of. Do they have two seasons? Yeah, I watched the first season. That's the only reason I know he was in it. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Loki might be the best Marvel show. [00:38:57] Speaker B: Loki was good. The second one I can't remember. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah, the second season was good. That's when they really got Kang the Conqueror in there. But see. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember. That's what I remember him being in. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Yeah, he was in that. He was in Ant Man. He was big in Ant man and then he was in that too. But yeah, so that was my honorable mentions, though. [00:39:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah. You got anything else before we get outta here? [00:39:22] Speaker B: Nah, man, I think that was it. That was this week's episode. Wednesday. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Email us djblayshowmail.com Email us yalls favorite. A top. Even if you got a top five, top five black movie or television villains. And let us know. Do you think whether or not Darth Vader, of course, is a black villain. Darth. It ain't dogs. [00:39:52] Speaker B: Darth with an F. Darth, not a T8. [00:39:58] Speaker A: They don't even go together. [00:39:59] Speaker B: My T8 Dolph Dark used to say Dark. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Dark Vader. Back in the day, dark. But yeah. Djblayshow gmail.com l. Where can everybody find you on social media? [00:40:08] Speaker B: Hey, you can find me El Murphy on Facebook, or you can find me at the Digital Studios Podcast. [00:40:13] Speaker A: And you can find me on social media at preacher underscore BP. Or you can find the show on Instagram @DJ Blazeshow. And you can watch us on YouTube. DJ Blazeshow. Anyway, we'll see y' all next Monday. It's your boy. Be easy. It's your boy, L. And we out. Let those who have ears listen. This is the DJ Blaze show.